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This week’s episode of Popcast (Deluxe), the weekly culture roundup show on YouTube hosted by Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli, includes: 00:00 Introduction 00:34 The current Hot 100, which features newcomers like Tommy Richman, Shaboozey, Sabrina Carpenter and others 03:46 Unboxing Popcast's iHeartPodcasts award for Best Music Podcast 10:13 Who has emerged, besides Taylor Swift, as a true cross-platform pop superstar in the last decade – Bad Bunny? Drake? 18:00 How centrist pop has become an aggregation of several styles rather than one coherent sound 23:18 How pop superstars of the ‘80s and ‘90s aggregated superfans and casual fans 35:37 Is there a path for a new star to get famous enough to play something like the Super Bowl halftime show a decade from now? Follow Jon: / joncaramanica / joncaramanica Follow Joe: / joecoscarelli / joecoscarelli Listen to every Popcast ever https://www.nytimes.com/popcast Every episode of Popcast (Deluxe) on YouTube https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDeluxe Popcast Discord! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastDiscord Popcast Facebook! https://tinyurl.com/PopcastFacebook Popcast t-shirts & stickers http://itsthepopcast.myshopify.com Subscribe: http://bit.ly/U8Ys7n More from The New York Times Video: http://nytimes.com/video Credits “Popcast (Deluxe)” is hosted by Jon Caramanica and Joe Coscarelli. Produced by Sawyer Roque. Edited by Jamie Hefetz. Social media production by Pat Gunther. Photo edited by Amanda Webster. Thumbnails by Lindsey Flood. Special thanks to Nell Gallogly, Pedro Rafael Rosado, Caryn Ganz, Leslye Davis and Nina Lassam.