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Peter Zeihan, renowned geopolitical strategist and founder of Zeihan on Geopolitics, wrote in his most recent book, "the seeds of deglobalization were sown decades ago." Since then, the world has seen both demographic and economic shifts that further validate his analysis. In this episode, Peter High interviews Peter Zeihan about his deep insights on topics intersecting demography, economics, energy, politics, technology, and security. The conversation delves into Zeihan's perspectives on Stalin's influence on the global order, the early indicators of deglobalization, and the demographic challenges leading to economic declines. Zeihan provides an in-depth look at the geopolitical futures of major powers like China, Russia, and the United States. He explains the mechanisms driving historic trends, the ongoing conflict with Ukraine, and what might be expected on the world stage in the coming years. Pivoting more locally, Zeihan discusses his predictions for the 2024 US Presidential elections, what each candidate’s win might mean for America’s role on the world stage, and what needs to happen for the US to keep pace with the shifting trends toward deglobalization. Finally, Zeihan gives his thoughts on which other countries might come out on top in the coming years once the dust settles. *This interview was recorded on June 20th, 2024.* 00:00 Introduction to Technovation 00:51 Stalin's Influence on Global Order 02:03 The Seeds of Deglobalization 04:08 China's Demographic and Economic Crisis 17:30 India's Prospects and Challenges 20:57 Russia's Geopolitical Strategy and Ukraine Conflict 31:01 Nuclear Risks with China and Russia 31:31 Corruption in Chinese Military 32:48 US Missile Defense Limitations 33:19 Debate on US Response to Russian Aggression 34:32 Ukraine's Use of US Weapon Systems 35:50 Potential Conflict Over Taiwan 37:50 Impact of Deglobalization on the US 39:20 2024 US Presidential Election Predictions 47:22 Immigration's Role in US Demographics 50:28 Countries with Positive Long-Term Prospects 53:44 Challenges and Opportunities for the UK 55:48 Future Global Economic Models 56:38 Conclusion and Final Thoughts An audio-only version of this interview is available as episode 887 of Metis Strategy’s podcast, #Technovation with Peter High. Learn more at http://bit.ly/Technovation-887. Subscribe to Technovation on your podcast platform of choice: https://link.chtbl.com/Technovation To learn more, visit https://www.metisstrategy.com/technov... Connect with us on social LinkedIn: / metis-strategy Twitter/X: / metisstrategy ---------------- #podcast #peterzeihan