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Steven Hahn Interview: Abraham Lincoln's Empathy & its Limits on Slavery

Historian Steven Hahn discusses how slavery in American history changed because of the Civil Rights Movement, understanding enslavement through narratives, memoirs, interviews and other historical documents, resistance by the enslaved, and Abolition vs. anti-slavery. Steven Hahn received his PhD at Yale University and is currently Professor of History at New York University. He is a specialist on the international history of slavery, emancipation, and race, on the construction of American empire, and on the social and political history of the “long nineteenth century” in the United States. He has written for The Nation, Dissent, The New Republic, Le Monde Diplomatique, and The New York Times, as well as for the American Historical Review, and Past and Present. He is the author of The Roots of Southern Populism: Yeoman Farmers and the Transformation of the Georgia Upcountry; A Nation under Our Feet: Black Political Struggles in the Rural South from Slavery to the Great Migration (winner of the Pulitzer Prize, Bancroft Prize, and Merle Curti Prize); The Political Worlds of Slavery and Freedom, and A Nation without Borders: The United States and Its World in an Age of Civil Wars, 1830-1910. Hahn has been actively involved in projects making history and liberal arts education available to a wider public, and is currently teaching in NYU’s Prison Education Program. The Apple TV+ series "Lincoln's Dilemma," features insights from journalists, educators and scholars, as well as rare archival materials, that offer a more nuanced look into the life of the Great Emancipator. Set against the background of the Civil War, "Lincoln's Dilemma" also gives voice to the narratives of enslaved people, shaping a more complete view of an America divided over issues including economy, race and humanity, and underscoring Lincoln's battle to save the country, no matter the cost. The series is narrated by award-winning actor Jeffrey Wright ("Angels in America") and features the voices of actor Bill Camp ("The Night Of") as Lincoln and Leslie Odom Jr. ("Hamilton") as Frederick Douglas. To view the entire series please visit: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/lincolns... Subscribe for access to interviews, series, films, and educational materials that address issues of social justice, history, politics, the arts, and culture by spotlighting relatable human stories of purpose and meaning. Learn about our work and how to support our mission here: https://www.lifestories.org/. For extended versions of these interviews and more, visit:    / @lifestoriesinterviewarchive   Follow us on Instagram:   / lifestoriesinterviews   Chapter Markers: 00:00 - Introduction 00:15 - Slavery in American history 04:01 - The Haitian Revolution’s influence 12:17 - How to look at labor relations and resistance 20:17 - Family life for enslaved people 25:50 - Lincoln’s belief in free labor 28:07 - Lincoln’s empathy and its limits 33:48 - Enslaved people’s growing political awareness 42:06 - Who shaped U.S. political history 47:51 - Abolition v. anti-slavery 55:48 - Potential political allies for enslaved people 01:04:08 - Enslaved people punished for seeking freedom 01:07:18 - The story of the escaped slave, Harry Jarvis 01:11:25 - Refuting the myth of Black support for the Confederacy 01:15:49 - Understanding enslavement through storytelling 01:24:54 - Curating the national narratives of slavery 01:31:13 - A critical assessment of Lincoln’s position on slavery 01:39:59 - The view of emancipation from different lenses 01:42:08 - How the courage of Black soldiers influenced Lincoln Steven Hahn, Historian, New York University Interview Date: November 11, 2020 Interviewed by: Jackie Olive and Barak Goodman © Apple Video Programming, LLC. All Rights Reserved. #StevenHahn #kunhardtfilmfoundation