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Kunal Shah in conversation with Julie Zhuo | CRED curious

Julie Zhuo, founder of Sundial and former VP design at Meta, sits down with Kunal Shah to reveal unique observations about talent and culture from their time in the San Francisco Bay Area and in Bengaluru. With their shared experiences as leaders in startups, they discuss risk tolerance, creative confidence, encoding values, and what it takes for leaders to pursue excellence at scale. Chapters: 00:00 Start 00:41 Session opening 01:20 Julie’s journey into startups and into Facebook 05:03 Julie’s advice on scaling startups 08:23 Differences between talent in the Bay Area and India 14:00 Differences between Bay Area and India in the need for excellence 17:15 The evolution of Mark Zuckerberg 22:40 Views on ChatGPT 25:21 Can Google fight ChatGPT? 28:38 How Google and Facebook make successful acquisitions 31:30 The importance of speed 35:30 Traits of a great leader 39:40 Three traits of mediocre talent 41:15 ChatGPT question on the future of design 44:40 Q&A session 1:06:00 Kunal on long-term orientation 1:08:36 What keeps Julie going after Facebook Seek truth with #CREDcurious. Subscribe to the CRED channel and switch on notifications for exclusive sessions.