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Is The Figure Of Nine Knot Actually Easier To Untie?

A Figure of Eight knot is easier to untie than a Figure of Nine knot. I have been proving this since the early 2000's and as of late online more often. And still, for some reason people still claim the opposite. Even the poll I recently posted had 32% of the people saying the F9 would be easier to untie. The Figure of eight knot is one of the best allround climbing knots for many reasons and it always easier to untie than a figure of nine knot. I have done these little tests often and NEVER has a Figure of Nine knot been easier to untie. NEVER! So, if you claim that a F9 is easier, show me the result of your test. Tie a F8 and F9 on each end and pull them apart. Or do several ropes with the knots. Bounce around, load it on various tensions and untie them a few times. Make a video post or send it to me. If you need ideas on how to test this on the cheap, email me at [email protected]. or send me a DM on instagram/tiktok/Patreon/Facebook. I am easy to find. I am not interested in the comment “I have used it for years and my F9 always come out” or “I was taught by a real OG scottish rope tech who has done it for 30 years”. That is what I usually hear and no one can back up those claims. Just the I have always done it comment. If you think that an F9 is easier to untie, prove it. I have yet to receive proof as what I show. And you know why? Because the people who have done these test all change their stance. And it seems that most of this “knowledge” is hand me down beliefs without anything to back it up. For instance, I know of a fire station that has changed their procedures after having seen my video on youtube about this subject called: “F8 VS F9 Which is easier to untie?”    • F8 VS F9  Which is easier to untie? -...   and the performing tests. Also, a F8 is easier to tie and dress properly and it is easier to recognise as well. Those two factors are more important than "untieability" or strength of a knot. Strength of the knot is the next argument. “But the F9 is stronger”... By how much?? From what I know we are talking a few % in a lab setting. If those few % would be the difference between life and death you are already making huge errors in your rigging. Out in the field with old and dirty ropes we take 50% of MBS for a knot in the rope and take a SF of 10. If you go over, you need to adjust your rigging and maybe resort to tensionless hitches for instance. Strength is rarely the most important factor in choosing a knot. Now I have been saying and proving this for a LONG time. If you have not seen the previous video, have a look. I still have a piece of rope somewhere with an F9 in there. That said, I am happy to be proven wrong. Welcome video where I explain the philosophy behind The Rope Access Channel    • Welcome to THE ROPE ACCESS CHANNEL - ...   Buy me a coffee on Patreon: https://bit.ly/3K6Qc1u Buy me a coffee on Ko-Fi: https://ko-fi.com/theropeaccesschannel Get your gear at: Industrieel Klimmen - https://bit.ly/3uomQr4 Your one stop shop for all things rope access. Use coupon code: TRAC at checkout for a €20,- discount with any purchase of over €100,- Connect on: Website: https://www.theropeaccesschannel.com Email: [email protected] Instagram:   / theropeaccesschannel   Twitter:   / theropeaccessc   Facebook:   / theropeaccesschannel   Dapro Safety 10% Discount: For almost 10 years I have been using Dapro Safety Workwear. They were the first company I encountered who made coveralls specifically designed for rope access. Pockets in all the right places, longer than standard legs and more room to move you arms. Great quality and durability too. If you follos this link and use code " RopeAccess10 " You get 10% discount https://bit.ly/dapro-trac My favorite loadcell! LineGrip LineScale 3: Follow the link below to get yours and support the channel: https://www.linegrip.com/?ref=TRAC A revolutionary digital all-in-one bluetooth dyno / load cell. PPE certified, 1280Hz fast, 30kN WLL, and unique onboard-logging of up to 50 hours. The huge load eyes and 90kN breaking strength make it perfectly suited as a generous master point for any type of rigging challenge. LS3 Affiliate discount code: Use code TRAC-w22-XuV on checkout to get 2,5% discount!! Use for any purchase on Linegrip and support the channel My favorite software to create images of my rigging to support in training, web, video and work method statements: VRigger! https://vRigger.com/?RC=RC0135 Use code TRAC10 for a 10% discount! :-) Make sure you enable cookies! I use Tubebuddy to manage this channel: https://www.tubebuddy.com/LXB Disclaimer: Some of the links are affiliate links where if you buy through them, you get a discount and you support the channel. 00:00 Intro and setup 01:21 Untying the Bowline Knot 01:46 How to unie a Figure of Nine Knot 03:37 The Figure of Eight Knot is easy